1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Chairman, friends, being fascinating listening to the questions and answers is the most 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:17,000 fascinating and illuminating. Quite obviously you've been taking it as what is sometimes 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:28,000 called the nuts and bolts approach. But knowing Brinsley of old and knowing contact a little 4 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:39,000 bit I had thought and still think that tonight we're taking it a little deeper. I hope that's right. 5 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:48,000 If not, we'll come back to the nuts and bolts and pour the honest people there who are not yet convinced of the realities of them. 6 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Let's do a quick recap, but not sightings because there have been hundreds of those, not even landings. 7 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:08,000 1947 the expression is born, flying saucers always popularized. And there are purest things about it. 8 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,000 I mentioned this last time, but let's recap. 9 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:21,000 You see there is a businessman, Kenneth Arnold, flying his own plane. He sees these saucers. 10 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:29,000 And that's one level at which we can look. Because he's a businessman and he's a pilot, 11 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:36,000 well that adds validity to his report and we can leave it at that. 12 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Because he's a successful businessman, sufficiently successful to own his own plane, 13 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:53,000 well that appeals to subconsciously or otherwise and we can leave it at that. 14 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Where did he see this? He saw it at Montpelier, Washington. 15 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Well what's peculiar about that? Well a mountain in Alwagry is usually depictive of spirit as distinct from the valley of matter. 16 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:25,000 I think these other inner planes are very much support of saucers and we just noticed that. 17 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:34,000 It was Montpelier, Washington. What's peculiar about Montpelier? It's got three peaks. 18 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:42,000 In the Exoteric I'll agree, it's of all the scriptures, most of the people is going back thousands of years, 19 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:47,000 if you're stuck in nuts and bolts, millions of years, if you'll accept Atlantis and the Muriel. 20 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Either way, the Trinity is in the subconscious of millions of people. 21 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:01,000 So you've got a mountain and there's Trinity. How many saucers were there? 22 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Never mind about their speed, all of which have been described in their shape and their this and their that. 23 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:20,000 How many were there? There were nine. Nine in numerology is the number of initiation and trial, not the ten of perfection. 24 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:27,000 And I don't think many of us here would claim that humanity in its growth has reached perfection. 25 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:37,000 It's more in the realm of trial. Perfection is still for tomorrow. The bonds and the disturbances are up today. 26 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:50,000 So you've got nine saucers, you've got a mountain, you've got three peaks. What time was it? 3 p.m. 27 00:03:50,000 --> 00:04:00,000 When was it? 24th of June, 1947. What's special about that? It was Midsummer. 28 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Well, why Midsummer? People are saying, do you see them in the day? 29 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:17,000 The reports I've seen which run into, I should think, thousands, if not tens of thousands, as many are in day as by night. 30 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:32,000 But why June? It's the high peak of summer, June the 24th, the longest days just come, the most of the solar forces, least of the lunar forces. 31 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:38,000 What was happening at the time? 3 p.m. again and now the Trinity. 32 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:50,000 There was a conjunction of planets. Which planets? Jupiter, the high mind consciousness, Venus, this love wisdom aspect, Venusian saucers. 33 00:04:50,000 --> 00:05:06,000 June the 24th, June the 6th month, 6th, the keynote of the new age, 6th, 6th, 24th, the double 12th, the 12 hours of the day, the 12 signs of the zodiac, the 12 apostles, 34 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:17,000 are beginning to lose some of the audience. Why? Where along this line is the prejudice beginning to strike? 35 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Have you been taught that of the devil, that of superstition, that of something else? Are you not beginning to look? 36 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Are all these things coincidences? 37 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:42,000 June the 24th, the double 12th, the positive, the negative, the so-called day, the so-called night, the so-called good, the so-called evening, 38 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:55,000 1947, add it up, comes to 21, 3 7th. Why all these things? Which level are you going to take sources? 39 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Are you just stuck with a successful businessman seeing something in the stuff? 40 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:10,000 Or where along the line does prejudice begin to draw in? 41 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Are you scientific, are you proud of it? And all this is superstition. 42 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Are you religious and proud of it? Of a particular one? 43 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:29,000 And if you bring in something like numerology of the devil or something, does that hold you back? 44 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:36,000 This is the sort of way we might look at sources. Because we're all in this. 45 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:43,000 The whole village, planet earth, and it doesn't matter which bit of the village you live in, 46 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:48,000 east, west, north, south, black, blue, yellow, green, who cares? 47 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,000 That tiny little village, do you think it's important? 48 00:06:54,000 --> 00:07:01,000 A thousand million planets set to be inhabited, even by nuts and bolts. 49 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:08,000 We've been on this little village and said some 80 millions of years. 50 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Our date is a little longer. Let's take 80 minutes. 51 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:23,000 A couple of centuries ago, it's damn all in time, the fastest speed was a horse. 52 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 And suddenly we've got Apollo Watman. 53 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:34,000 I was buzzing in the 80 millions. Somebody else has been around for 80 minutes 54 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,000 and they're 10% more advanced than we are. Just 10%. 55 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,000 10% of 80 millions is roughly 8 millions. 56 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:50,000 8 million years. 800 millennia. 57 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,000 And a couple of centuries ago we've got a horse. 58 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:03,000 So there's a lot more in this flying source of business than a couple of nuts and a couple of bolts. 59 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,000 And a telescope. 60 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 There are a thousand million planets. 61 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,000 They're not all going to be stuck with our three dimensions. 62 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,000 They're not all going to be stuck, like we are. 63 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Some of us. 64 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:30,000 So which way along the line of that flying source of sighting of June the 24th, 1947, do you start saying nonsense? 65 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,000 And the big question is not the nonsense, but you. 66 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Why you at that moment are drawing in? 67 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Because the other bloke goes on. 68 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,000 What's wrong with you? 69 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Where does fear lack of knowledge of the of the safe, the three dimensions, space time continuum? 70 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Where does the unknown begin to hold you back? 71 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 That's how I look at sources. 72 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Let's look at it another way. From 1947 to now. 73 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,000 For the first seven years. Why should you be seven tell me? 74 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,000 In 1947 to 54, there's open discussion. 75 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:30,000 You look at any newspaper in Chinese, in Urdu, in English, in Turkish, in American, in Russian. 76 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Pick any newspaper around the village. 77 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:40,000 All the front pages during those seven years have got stories of flying sources. 78 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:48,000 This is a statement anybody was for a few hours work in the public library can check for themselves. 79 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Suddenly in 54, down comes the night and the sources vanish off the front pages. 80 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,000 This is extraordinary. 81 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,000 1954 Stalin had just died a couple of years before. 82 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,000 The Berlin blockade was just over. 83 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:16,000 The cold war was a big item. Everybody got a gun which they were pointing at everybody else. 84 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Nobody was talking to anybody else in the village. 85 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,000 We were having a way of the time in our usual worst thing way. 86 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Yet in 1954, the Chinese, the Russians, the English, the Germans, the lot, all took sources off their front pages. 87 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 It is a staggering fact. 88 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:48,000 That it is a fact each can prove for himself with a bit of work. 89 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,000 And how could such a thing happen? 90 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,000 I mean we're quite happy to say the Arla Japs got a sense of press. 91 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,000 If we say the Russians have got a sense of press everybody taps here. 92 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:12,000 If you've heard of Moscow and say the imperialistic war mongering, I've forgotten quite the phrases of all the things. 93 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Everybody claps there. 94 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:24,000 You sit here and you say the Chinese and the Russians and the Americans and the English all gave the same treatment to sources in 1954. 95 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,000 It is staggering. 96 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Usually in 1954 the focus is on something else. 97 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,000 Do you remember Mead Lane, that researcher? 98 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,000 He went beyond Nassan Boats. He died recently but he was a good bloke. 99 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:55,000 And in 1954 he circulated his round robin as it was called saying that he'd had news of this stupendous event which was so stupendous, so dramatic, so sad. 100 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:06,000 So unbelievable, so all these adjectives that at any rate he was circulating it round right now in case his magazine was stopped like Bendis was. 101 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:14,000 We all know Bendis magazine's space review was stopped in April 53. 102 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,000 He said I've got it, I've got it, I've got it. 103 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,000 I'll tell you in the next quarterly issue which is July. 104 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Quarterly issue of July, so I'm so sorry, and September issue close to done. 105 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,000 And at Mead Lane sent this round post haste, many people have. 106 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:44,000 The story was that at Edwards Air Force Base by invitation, by prior arrangement with the government, five sources landed, stayed several hours and allowed the scientists to sniff all over them. 107 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:53,000 And the sources would materialize, dematerialize, make themselves visible, invisible, all these things which sighting showed. 108 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:59,000 When you see a thing in the sky in daylight and suddenly it's not there. 109 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,000 It's not, it's gone away or into a distance behind a cloud, it's not there. 110 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Do you remember Captain Speakwen's report, BOAC, BEA pilot flying to schedule flight to Ski-Paw, a magnificent report, you know, cumulus clouds so many feet, bearing so many degrees north, altitude so visibility unlimited. 111 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,000 He and the co-pilot see this UFO. 112 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:34,000 The UFO prevents him contacting base on its radar because the contact breakers break. 113 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:45,000 And the report of Captain Speakwen goes on that total electrical failure on a modern aircraft nowadays is rare. 114 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:52,000 In our case we couldn't understand it because we were not using all our equipment, electrical equipment. 115 00:13:52,000 --> 00:14:00,000 When the UFO left our contact breakers did stay in, is it too much to ask that the UFO prevented us doing this? 116 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:16,000 And the characteristic of the UFO, which when it maneuvered round the plane, described first by the pilot and the co-pilot, beautiful day, visibility unlimited, was that it was a luminous thing and then suddenly it wasn't there. 117 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Speakwen's words are, we suddenly became aware we were looking at an empty sky. 118 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,000 This is what the sources landed the Redwoods Air Force Base were doing. 119 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:33,000 We're visible, not visible, dense, physical and allow you to walk through. 120 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Well this is absolute nonsense in physics. 121 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Dense, physical and you walk through. It's alright with all that psychic stuff but not in physics. 122 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,000 And one of the gods we worship is physics. 123 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,000 Or science. 124 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Any fool knows that this dense physical is dense physical. We've been taught it. It's our experience, we know. 125 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:12,000 And yet we also know now that it's a moving mass of matter to which we've given fancy names like Meezons and Whatnots and there's more space in that than there is solidity. 126 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,000 So at which level are we going to have a look at sources? 127 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,000 1954 they disappear off the newspapers. 128 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,000 They haven't disappeared from the village, granted there as good sightings go on. 129 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:34,000 1954 they said to have landed. How could you keep such a thing secret? 130 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,000 And yet the driblets come up. 131 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:46,000 From the top echelons come salvos of ridicule, nonsense, you stupid lot. There was no energy. 132 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:53,000 From the middle ranges of the thing come what you couldn't keep a thing like that secret, could you? 133 00:15:54,000 --> 00:16:00,000 And from the lower ranges come masses of little driblets of information. 134 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:11,000 Eisenhower suddenly slips off of Washington to go for a golfing holiday and let it come at Palm Springs next to Edwards Air Force Base. 135 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,000 And as Bailey noticed his art towards he'd forgotten to take his golf clubs. 136 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Little people who've gone out from the base to do a job, ordinary routine job, they've done it dozens of times. 137 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,000 They come back to the base, it's sealed off, they're not allowed in. 138 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Could you know me? I'm so sorry. Not allowed in. 139 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:41,000 People who were sort of in the mess and heard conversations afterwards. 140 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:47,000 People who were on the base and saw these things or said they saw. 141 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Anyway, whatever it was in 1954, whether it was that or whether it was not, the stuff did disappear off the headlines, off the front pages. 142 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,000 And you've got the next schedule bit, which was silence. 143 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,000 And it was us who just pretended sources weren't there. 144 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:23,000 And yet people went on saying, people like our good sales here came to little meetings for no reason, no authority, no big name, nothing. 145 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Just come because you felt there was something there. 146 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:38,000 And more and more and more and the silence was beginning to crumble as we began whispering to each other, talking to each other. 147 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:45,000 We'd seen it, we're quite sure it wasn't there, it wasn't there, and we'd, our cousin and what not. 148 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 And the crescendo began to grow. 149 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,000 So you've got the next period, ridiculed. 150 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:57,000 And we've all seen the newspapers and we've all suffered from it. 151 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Ridiculous. 152 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,000 You saw sources, you weren't. 153 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Both. 154 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,000 Not case. 155 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Drunk, crank, any human. 156 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:14,000 And the ridicule heard and it kept us quiet for quite a while. 157 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Then we began whispering again to each other, friends to friends. 158 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,000 You know I'm not nutty, but honestly I saw. 159 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,000 And he said, here's the photographs. 160 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Because there are lots of photographs. 161 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Another of the big myths is that they're all fake for the Huckabins. 162 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,000 It just doesn't stand, investigational truth. 163 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,000 And films. 164 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Plenty of films. 165 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:50,000 And again, always all fake is this, won't stand up. 166 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,000 And the ridicule began to grow thin. 167 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:00,000 Too many people like Captain Speaker, who couldn't ridicule it. 168 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,000 Captain Harle of BOAC, flying across the Atlantic. 169 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,000 He and the co-pilot, his air hostess and his passengers. 170 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,000 See this down source for about 20 minutes. 171 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,000 And he drew sketches of it when he comes down. 172 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,000 It's a solid object, yes. 173 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,000 You've got a good RAF record, Captain Harle. 174 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Yes, you're now BOAC pilot on a big plane. 175 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,000 It's a responsible job, yes. 176 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,000 And it was a solid object. 177 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,000 What's the shape of it? 178 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,000 He's drawn these shapes. 179 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,000 Shapes, plural, solid object. 180 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,000 Yes, it was a solid object, but it changed shape. 181 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000 I don't be silly. 182 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,000 Any film in physics knows that a solid object doesn't change shape. 183 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,000 This was solid. 184 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:59,000 Those sources, landed at Edwards Air Force Base, were visible and invisible. 185 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,000 You would walk through them or you couldn't. 186 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000 So you come up against another joke. 187 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:11,000 As we did in the 1947 story, where did you stop? 188 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,000 And in solid objects changing shape, where do you stop? 189 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,000 So you say, Captain Harle, you had a good record. 190 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:24,000 You're still flying the plane and we still love you, but you were mistaken. 191 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Sincere, BOAC, etc., etc. 192 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 And we go on to the next stage. 193 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,000 We've had open discussion, we've had silence, 194 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:39,000 we've had ridicule, we've slung our own speakman and Howard in the dustbin. 195 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:44,000 It's much easier than re-looking at ourselves or re-looking at physics. 196 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,000 And we go on to the next stage. 197 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:55,000 Alright, it's very difficult to throw the Howards and the speakmans in the dustbin. 198 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,000 They're trained men. They should be better than this. 199 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:04,000 So we find the next stage, conventional explanations. 200 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Yes, yes, they weren't drunk, they're not cranks. 201 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:14,000 They're nice blokes, honest blokes, quite trained, but... 202 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:21,000 They saw ice crystals in the sky, temperature in versions, high flying geese, 203 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:27,000 spots before the eyes, a fraction of light, all the rest of the gun. 204 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,000 And you know the rest of the take too. 205 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:39,000 If we had more information, we'd explain 99%, 98%, 27%, it varies. 206 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:47,000 And if we had a little more information, the .01% or the .924% would be explained. 207 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,000 We heard that for a year after year. 208 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:58,000 And all the big braid and all the big brass came on and told us it was ice crystals. 209 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,000 And then that was it. 210 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:09,000 Because it became exceedingly difficult to dismiss these flipping ice crystals 211 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,000 which kept landing, 4,000 contacts you would say. 212 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,000 I'd have put the figure about the wave of white smoke. 213 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:23,000 And all these people who began speaking, who said they'd been for a ride in, 214 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,000 and again down came the prejudice. 215 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:34,000 Without knowing the name of these people, without having read their stories, 216 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:39,000 without having examined it, chuck them in the dust. 217 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:44,000 I didn't go, therefore nobody else did. 218 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:53,000 I didn't find out, you didn't die until I do it first. 219 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,000 And we're at the last stage now. 220 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Open discussion, silence, ridicule, conventional explanations, all of them. 221 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:17,000 All right, you did see a saucer, you worked tight. 222 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:23,000 It wasn't a double load, or before after .92 to .7 as half-life. 223 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:31,000 It was a saucer, but they're hostile. 224 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:40,000 And now when you go to a meeting, everybody gets up and talks about heat rays and this and that. 225 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:45,000 Ask yourselves two questions, my friends. 226 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:57,000 One, why did nobody talk about hostile sources before 1967 to wait when this propaganda beat started? 227 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,000 They refer now to incidents earlier than 67 to 68. 228 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,000 They're all being dug up and paraded around. 229 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:11,000 Why weren't they paraded around before that time? 230 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Have you been looking for yourself, or have you been influenced by somebody else? 231 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Second question, who, what, why, how in 1954 caused those sources to go off the front pages of all the press? 232 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Chinese, Russian, American, English, Indian, a lot. 233 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,000 These are incredible questions. 234 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,000 There must be some sort of link. 235 00:24:48,000 --> 00:25:00,000 There must be some sort of reasoning somewhere, because too many people and too much evidence. 236 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:15,000 And since if you haven't had the direct, you know, because I didn't see, go along to a library and look through some of the newspaper files in 1954, 237 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:22,000 takes a 53 and 55 and see the difference. 238 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:30,000 So there's more to sources than nuts and bolts. 239 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,000 But nuts and bolts are very important. 240 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000 In fact, without them, we build on sand. 241 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:47,000 And yet, Captain Harle, saw the solid source and it changed shape. 242 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Those sources are said to have landed in Edwards Air Force Base, became visible and invisible. 243 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:02,000 Speakman became aware he was looking at an empty sky. 244 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:10,000 1952, Washington, D.C., most powerful city on the planet, perhaps, 245 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:17,000 guarded by two radar stations, a military station and fighters. 246 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:23,000 Three consecutive nights, sources come over Washington for visionary. 247 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:29,000 They're seen visually and on the radar plural sets. 248 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Fighters come up, see them visually and on the airborne radar, fourfold lock. 249 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,000 Fighters approach, sources withdraw. 250 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,000 Fighters to do around, run out of fuel and land. 251 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,000 Back come the sources, refuel the fighters back. 252 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:52,000 This pantomime went on three consecutive nights. 253 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,000 Fourfold lock at a time. 254 00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:03,000 Visual, ground radar, ground visual, ground radar. 255 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,000 Airborne visual, airborne radar. 256 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000 And then the downed sources. 257 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:16,000 When this pantomime was going on over Washington, D.C., did weird things. 258 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,000 You'd see them visually and not on radar. 259 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,000 You'd see them on radar and not visually. 260 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,000 You'd see both, you'd see none. 261 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,000 You can't explain it. 262 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,000 They're either on radar or they aren't. 263 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000 You either can see them or you can't. 264 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,000 This is either a solid object or it isn't. 265 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Physics, says so. 266 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:48,000 And yet these downed sources, who come from wherever they do, 267 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000 let's come to that in a minute. 268 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,000 And if there are a thousand million planets there, 269 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:58,000 somebody's ten percent more advanced on a horse. 270 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:04,000 That's about 800 millennia of Earth's time. 271 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:10,000 They don't seem to be stuck in knots and bolts in three dimensions. 272 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,000 And it seems stupid, if you'll park on the work, 273 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,000 just to put the head in the sand and say, 274 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,000 it isn't so. 275 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,000 It can't be. 276 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,000 Because it is. 277 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,000 The howards and the speakings go on. 278 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:33,000 The radar sets guarding Washington and the fighters prove 279 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,000 they're sometimes visible by radar, 280 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:42,000 not sometimes visually and not. 281 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:49,000 Someone was saying, what sort of man sees a saucer? 282 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,000 And I believe, that's an interesting question, 283 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,000 and I believe perhaps it's the next one. 284 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,000 On the conventional knots and bolts side, 285 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,000 you've gone through the five stages 286 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,000 and you're now at the stage of fear of the unknown, 287 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000 they're hostile. 288 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,000 And we've had this all through. 289 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,000 They, it's always their fault. 290 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,000 The enemy and war, the boss in the trade union, 291 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,000 the schoolmaster at school, 292 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,000 the chap on the other, in the other house, 293 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,000 their fault. 294 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:36,000 And fear of hostility, we project any subconscious act projected on. 295 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,000 Could possibly be the whole truth, could it? 296 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000 If they've been here since the time of the pharaohs, 297 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000 which obviously they have. 298 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,000 Anybody who's studied saucers knows they've been here. 299 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,000 If they've been here since the time of Atlantis and Lemuria, 300 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,000 18 millions of years ago, 301 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,000 if that's too unscientific and untrugged for you, 302 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000 let's stick to the ancient Egyptians 303 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,000 and the pyramids of the pharaohs. 304 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Everybody, I have against those who come along with that. 305 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:13,000 They've been here, shall we say, five, seven thousand years. 306 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:18,000 If they were hostile and had wanted to do all these things, 307 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,000 why didn't we think of it before 1967 to 1988 308 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,000 when this propaganda beat started? 309 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,000 And what have we got now improved on a bow and arrow 310 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,000 compared to the pharaohs? 311 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Did you remember that case when there's a missile rising from 312 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,000 white sand, New Mexico, the proving ground, 313 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,000 which now has been displaced by Cape Canaveral? 314 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,000 It's rising at a known speed, this missile, of 18,000 miles an hour. 315 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,000 While it's rising, there are two radar stations 316 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,000 tracking it, the Fyotrad team here as well. 317 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,000 The saucer and the film unit, 318 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,000 and the two radar stations record this, 319 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,000 the saucer doing tight rings round a missile 320 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,000 rising at a known speed of 18,000 miles an hour. 321 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:15,000 Pulls of gravity, absolutely impossible in physics. 322 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,000 And then the saucer accelerates away, 323 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000 leaving this thing virtually standing, 324 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,000 although it's going up at a known speed of 18,000. 325 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,000 And the team, with their instruments, 326 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:32,000 gets the dimension of the saucer 105 feet. 327 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,000 So they've got a technology which is pretty good, 328 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:43,000 and they seem to be able to make a solid object change. 329 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:49,000 Now is there any clue here for you and I if we want to take it? 330 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:54,000 The joy is we don't have to take it. 331 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,000 Who cares, for example, what I say? 332 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:03,000 There's no authority behind it, no big brass knuckle. 333 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,000 It's entirely up to the individual, you and I, 334 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,000 as to whether we accept or reject. 335 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:17,000 It's entirely free, there's no force. 336 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,000 Now clearly I'm coming off nuts and bolts, 337 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:28,000 and clearly I'm going into what we're pleased to call subjective. 338 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:36,000 And that very word sometimes sets up the hackles of some people. 339 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:41,000 Yet Shakespeare's poetry is subjective. 340 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,000 It's very beautiful. 341 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,000 We've been taught to appreciate it, we clap, we accept that. 342 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,000 In science we've got two things around our neck. 343 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000 Repeatability, observability. 344 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:04,000 There are two tools with which we said we've brought the superstitions of the past. 345 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:10,000 For those tools of observability, repeatability, 346 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,000 anybody can observe, anybody can repeat the experiment, 347 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000 get in the conditions. 348 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:25,000 Might begin now to be hand-stringing instead of two tools. 349 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,000 You take the Wimbledon tennis champion. 350 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,000 Today he plays beautifully. 351 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,000 Tomorrow the same brackets, the same court, the same partners, 352 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:43,000 the same conditions, he's off-form. 353 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,000 It's not observable, it's not repeatable. 354 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,000 Why is he off-form? 355 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,000 You take any creative artist. 356 00:33:54,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Today the music is beautiful, the book is wonderful, 357 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:06,000 the painting is marvelous, tomorrow he's off-form. 358 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,000 But we all know this is true. 359 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,000 Observability and repeatability won't work. 360 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,000 So we try the unknown, we try psychology, 361 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,000 we try that around his wife or something like this. 362 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,000 But it doesn't always work. 363 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,000 Is there something more? 364 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:30,000 Was it possible that hard when he said the solid object changed shape 365 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,000 and the shapes he drew, was it possible 366 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,000 that there's something more there for us to see? 367 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:45,000 And this is a controversial thing I'd like to offer to you. 368 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:50,000 But before I do it, let's take a couple of Salsa contact cycles 369 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,000 and look at them again. 370 00:34:53,000 --> 00:35:00,000 One is the very famous one everybody knows of George Adamusky's first one in the desert. 371 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,000 He meets this Venusian in this particular spot in the desert. 372 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:11,000 The Venusian has special shoes on, draws Adamusky's attention to the shoes, 373 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:17,000 presses down into the sand, makes the imprint in the sand, 374 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,000 and we've all seen plaster casts of them and so on. 375 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:26,000 The imprints were deep enough for plaster casts to be taken off. 376 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:34,000 The Venusian is about 5 foot 8 in height, looks about 180 pounds in weight. 377 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Later we took an earthling there, 5 foot 8 in height, 180 pounds in weight, 378 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:47,000 to the same spot, put rugged boots on his feet, you know, with big indentations on them, 379 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:54,000 and set press into the ground and make a mark sufficiently deep for us to take a plaster cast. 380 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,000 And the earthling of 180 pounds couldn't do it. 381 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:06,000 He stamped, he jumped docking down, he couldn't make a mark sufficiently clear in the sand 382 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,000 unless you put water there. 383 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:16,000 And there was no question in the original Adamusky contact of water being put down before the imprints. 384 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:22,000 So said the nuts and bolts, they are that proves Adamusky is a fraud. 385 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,000 All right, let's leave it just for a sec. 386 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:32,000 Take another one, that Mexican taxi driver, Salvador Medina. 387 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:39,000 He breaks down in his taxi about 300 miles north of Mexico City, 388 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:45,000 one afternoon, late afternoon, he has to spend the night in the sorcerer, 389 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,000 the sorcer people come, they contact him, I will go into all the details you know, 390 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:56,000 appointed next morning, they say we would like to come and see our sorcerer. 391 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:03,000 It's now daylight, and there it is, not very far away, and they start walking towards it, 392 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000 the two sorcer people and Medina. 393 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,000 Medina being a good old solid dense physical earthling, 394 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:17,000 goes through this swampy things, sinking into his ankles as he goes, 395 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:24,000 and the Venusians seem to just go over it like that. 396 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,000 Now why? They go over the swamp and don't go in, 397 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:36,000 and in the desert with Adamusky the Venusian can press down and make marks which the earthling can't. 398 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,000 Solid objects change shape. What's the link? 399 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,000 Have we got to get beyond nuts and bolts? Have we got to grow? 400 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:59,000 Is our physics also of the horse compared to those planets, compared to another 800 millennia? 401 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,000 What have we got to learn? 402 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:11,000 First, do we get a look, or where has the unknown, the prejudice, brought up the hackers? 403 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:19,000 Where in that story of the 1947 sighting did you drop off? Why? 404 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,000 Is that the spot that's now going to bring you up with the journey? 405 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:32,000 Because it is, with a round and round and round about radar and more sightings, and I'm proven. 406 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,000 And anyway, what's it matter? 407 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:42,000 If we can come a little more, it might matter very much to you and I and the other chap. 408 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:50,000 It might matter very much the planet, and we might have to do something very drastic. 409 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:57,000 The thing we hate doing most is change ourselves. 410 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,000 We're always happy to change the other blobs. 411 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,000 It's his fault. 412 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000 But I'm quite happy with that. 413 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,000 Shoot him, or educate him, put him in prison. 414 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:16,000 But me? I'm fine, Jack. 415 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:26,000 But now these dark sources want me to look at myself and let go of me physics. 416 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:36,000 This is the rock, and yet Adansky's contact made himself heavy so that he can get in. 417 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:41,000 And the Medina contact made himself light so that he did the same thing. 418 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:49,000 Make yourself heavy, make yourself light, solid object change shape. 419 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:56,000 Have you ever heard, Mr. Chairman, of Eastern Yoga? Everybody now in the West has heard it. 420 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:05,000 Ten years ago it was one of those as unproven as telepathy, which everybody now has heard. 421 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:15,000 One of the things Yoga says, and I've seen it down on an English stage, there was a nice, attractive looking young girl. 422 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:21,000 She goes on the stage, she invites up three great tough guys, lift me up, I lift her up. 423 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:28,000 And she does whatever it is she does. She makes herself heavy and they can't lift her up. 424 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:35,000 And this is not one of those things you just label as hypnotism, which also one has seen. 425 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:42,000 What is this heart of yoga to give its technical jargon at the East? 426 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:53,000 Now this is where the word subjective very much comes in, and this is the whole point of being able to talk freely without authority. 427 00:40:53,000 --> 00:41:01,000 What I say nobody cares too much about. If it doesn't agree with what's most inside you, 428 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:08,000 doesn't bring true to what's most inside you, then chuck it out and he or nobody cares. 429 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:19,000 There's no tiny truth, but you might not consider what is it that's sitting on that chair, that thing called you. 430 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:27,000 Well, it's your physical body, but that's not you. There's something inside that. 431 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:34,000 There's a hell of a body inside that. Sometimes you're on train as a women's champion, sometimes you're not. 432 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,000 Sometimes you're on a train, sometimes you're on a dream. 433 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:47,000 People who talk about these untrue and silly things like auras say that if your rays are sticking out and fine and vibrant like that, 434 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:58,000 the halo of the saint or something, the twice-born of a Hindu, the son of initiation, any of these words, like that, your house boy is fine. 435 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:11,000 But that's not you. You've got some emotions. In fact, we know who can't get into a first-class temper on this where all absolutely the cats whiskers. 436 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:21,000 But that's not you. You've also got a mind. In fact, it might be this mind which has got you stuck in nuts and bolts in physics 437 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:27,000 and making what I'm saying now so subjective and such nonsense. 438 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:33,000 To be honest with you, there are only about three people at the moment who are looking at me as though I'm a complete twerk. 439 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:43,000 The others are actually listening. Now, to the three people who look at me as though I'm such a twerk. Who's the twerk? 440 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:56,000 Why? Why can't you come along with the rest and listen? What's the blockage? Where in that story of 1947 did your blockage come? 441 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:03,000 What is the gold medal you've got to let go if this story is true? 442 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:12,000 Those are very real questions for us. This is the thing we hate. What have we got to choose from? 443 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:30,000 See, it's I've got a degree in physics. Or if I'm an authority of, or this very word, I, by itself, that selfish word, I, it might be the blockage. 444 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:46,000 Let's go on a bit. So the thing sitting on the chair is called a physical body, a health body, an emotional body, and a mind body. 445 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:54,000 What's using those four things sitting on the chair? Is that the real you? 446 00:43:54,000 --> 00:44:01,000 This is what that subjective yoga nonsense talks about. 447 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:10,000 Unproven, this is, and there are now more than three people with a sort of superior smile. 448 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:19,000 What is this superior smile? Is that the defense mechanism of the period of ridicule after silence? 449 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:35,000 Oh no, I'm not not, I didn't see a source of use or source of you, but not a spam or a fear of the unknown, or a willingness to look. 450 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:43,000 So what's using those four tools? Is that the real you? This is what is said in half the yoga and half the yoga. 451 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:51,000 Now if you accept this, and there are many people in the east who know it, and people in the west who know it, 452 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:58,000 there's some superb books in the west on it, and there are now in the west many societies for meditation, what of it? 453 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,000 I don't mean the show-off act and the guru act, but the real stuff. 454 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:11,000 What can happen, apparently, is this. This really inner you, which uses these four tools, 455 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:20,000 has a consciousness which can come up and down the range. Most of us are stuck in the nuts and bolts, this physical thing. 456 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:29,000 Many have had some instances of something beyond that, be it telepathy, be it a hunch, be it something. 457 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:38,000 ESP is now not such a dirty word as it was. This sixth sense we're now talking about. 458 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:48,000 That means that this inner consciousness has dragged for a moment the main focus out of the physical into something else. 459 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:59,000 You have a beautiful experience or a wonderful inspiration of thought. Einstein got the formula, and we've got the ball. 460 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:06,000 It took him ages when he got the formula, getting on to pay, but it took two years in fact. 461 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:13,000 Beethoven and then it took ages to get it down into a symbol. 462 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:20,000 This consciousness for a moment flashed and then had to get its way through. 463 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:27,000 Now, these narratives, dust to dust, ashes to ashes of the exoterics. 464 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:39,000 If this consciousness works, you can add or subtract it. You can make yourself heavy like a damskies man or light like Medina's man. 465 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:50,000 And it's been done. People who think it can't be done, solid doctors can't change shape and hard with the food. 466 00:46:50,000 --> 00:47:02,000 Why does a yogi sit on a mountain top in so a nice, not-get-coated? Why does he walk cross-coated and not-get-burnt? 467 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:15,000 The easy answer is it's unproven it didn't have. How it was a liar or a fool, and my physics are correct. 468 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:25,000 The thousand million planets out there, none of them are 10% more advanced than me. 469 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:34,000 Maybe, maybe we've got to look. Maybe sources are trying to change us. 470 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:41,000 Why have they been here since the fairers and not landed at Hyde Park and shot up to Grenadiers? 471 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:51,000 Come on TV, come to our leaders, giving us a blueprint for a better God. 472 00:47:51,000 --> 00:48:01,000 I asked you last time I came, any Christians who were here, why wasn't Jesus, the son of God, who came to help, 473 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:10,000 so to say in the official accounts, who should have had more sense, why wasn't he born, Caesar in Rome? 474 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:15,000 That would have been the proper place to be born. Then the legions would have come round, 475 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:24,000 it would have been proclaimed in the capital next morning on Capitol Hill, the end of the forum, and you'd have, that would have been it. 476 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:34,000 Instead of that, born in the local stock mines, if you feel patricianment in Imperial Rome, you've never heard it, you dear, 477 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:43,000 you've got to look it up on a map, born from Bologna, Carpenter's town. 478 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:57,000 And you could accept or reject, as you like. There were no legions there with very big spheres and whatnot to say this is. 479 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:09,000 Why now? Is there something of this? Why do the sources over Washington appear on radar, disappear, reappear, neither of those? 480 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:17,000 Why does Howard see? Why does the Damsey contact get heavy and the other one get like? 481 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:22,000 Is there anything in this nonsense? 482 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:36,000 Well, isn't this the way we do it? Look at us with sources. Ten years ago we were all mad keen, and rightly mad keen, to get a radar report. 483 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:44,000 Get some triangulation of the height of the ice crystals, of five that Alex Birch photographed over Masber and Sheffield. 484 00:49:44,000 --> 00:50:00,000 According to the Air Ministry, there were ice crystals. There were 614 feet high, because in the photographs at the top of his trees, he got them triangulation of five of these four-and-a-half gaps at 614 feet high, 28 feet each diameter. 485 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:13,000 Then the kid slung up these five 28 feet diameter four-and-a-half gaps, 614 feet up, and took the photograph, and then they turned out to be ice crystals. 486 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:23,000 You see, this was the sort of thing we were doing when he took that photograph in 1962. It's now nearly a decade later. 487 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:35,000 And now let's look at the Damsey's contact. Look at this solid object changing shape. Why does some blood, this is where we started, see a source? 488 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:50,000 Now, since we're talking subjective stuff, let me tell you something no stronger than a fair story. I happen to believe it, but that just proves what a fool I am. 489 00:50:50,000 --> 00:51:02,000 Most people on this, in this village, planet Earth, have some vague idea of something called God or Oneness or something. 490 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:14,000 Some of us are very clear what we think is our particular idea, and we're quite willing to shoot and kill the fellow who's got a different idea in another part of the village. 491 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:25,000 But with all most of us, even the Russians, I think, would accept that there's something which is, well, a bit difficult to explain. 492 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:37,000 And a little bit difficult to sort of brush aside altogether, higher the scientific we are. 493 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:51,000 And then we got these famous five senses. Why have we got five? Why haven't we got twenty-two? In which order did you get five? 494 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:57,000 What's the sixth sense stuff that we're talking about, which is so untrue? 495 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:10,000 Story goes from the Oneness to manifestation down here. So-called spirit, so-called matter. 496 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:29,000 Downward into manifestation, the involutionary arc coming down. Back in return, the evolutionary arc going back to Oneness, and it's done in seven great root races, says my favorite story. 497 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:38,000 The seven. The seven planes of consciousness, these four tools and the inner three that you use. 498 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:58,000 You first step from the Oneness out into differentiation, the first sense of hearing in the exoteric religions in the beginning was, and we've all heard it. 499 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:08,000 Not going into details, it may or may not be right, other religions have a different viewpoint, but they all say hearing. 500 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:21,000 Second, a bit more densified down touch. It's now solid enough too, and it's still sort of all over. 501 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:32,000 Third, root race, and all the exoteric religions are fall of man. All of them, not just any one particular religion. 502 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:40,000 We happen to be in this continent, with this civilization, and we might easily be speaking at Damascus, 503 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:50,000 there are millions of people there, or in Delhi, there are millions there, or in Africa, and they've all got the fall of man intimate. 504 00:53:50,000 --> 00:54:00,000 The third root race, where spirit and matter meet, you and I get a sort of body, and we get our third sense out of sight. 505 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:14,000 We can begin to focus. I can look there and focus on, look at it clearly, instead of just an all around glimpsing like this. 506 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:28,000 Third root race, more matter than spirit, densification down in all the exoteric religions again, the story of the floods, 507 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:37,000 the story of evil and good, and all the rest of it, and we get our fourth sense, that of taste. 508 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:51,000 And now the body is typing down, that Lemurian one, 18 million years ago, the third root race, loose, incoherent thing, about 27 feet tall. 509 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:59,000 And we'll just remember that in passing, and we'll come back to find sources to it in a minute, in some other context. 510 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:13,000 The Atlantean one said to be, and laughed at by the nuts and bulb states, who were mad keen on a Manoan civilization in Crete somewhere in the Mediterranean, 511 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:24,000 said to be four millions of years ago, and we tightened the body down to about 12, 15, 10 feet over that period of time. 512 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:33,000 It lasted from four millions to one millions. All this is a fairy story, I'm not putting it stronger, because obviously one or two heckles are up. 513 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:47,000 Fifth root race, now, you and I, a peach of our body, absolutely tightened down, most responsive, completely different from that loose incoherent one or the Atlantean one, 514 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,000 this thing, and our fifth sense, that of smell. 515 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:59,000 And we come from oneness down here, about as far from oneness as we've got. 516 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:07,000 Most of us deny very much the very existence of spirit or psychic or what have you. 517 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:20,000 It's all fairy tale nonsense, and we worship the new God, matter, we call it science, and a solid object can't change shape, and how it is a food. 518 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,000 That's today. 519 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:33,000 And yet, in Ina Beans, very few of us really are satisfied just with matter. 520 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:50,000 Even if we've got a pilot airplane which will go and photograph or see these sources of a man brain, if we've got our bent leads and we've got everything, in the end we're not really quite enough. 521 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,000 Man doesn't really live by bread or love. 522 00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:02,000 And we've got this yearning or something more, whatever you call it, God or woman. 523 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:12,000 This quality of the sixth progress, this sixth sense, back towards oneness, and then the seventh and back here. 524 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:20,000 This arc downwards is the arc of selfishness and the word I, and you can whistle. 525 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:39,000 This arc is of oneness, and then beings like the Jesus, for example, or the Buddha, or Zoroastra, or truth, or size, or anything, who come to give, who don't arrange to be born season and run. 526 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,000 And these beings don't seem to bargain. 527 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:52,000 You and I give a tea party, and we're happy to have the cakes eaten, but we expect to be asked back. 528 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:58,000 And when we are asked back, we mentally cannot count the chocolate x-heads. 529 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,000 We bargain. 530 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,000 But what did the Christ, for example, come to take? 531 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:25,000 Now, the bloke has seized sources, busy of this involutionary arc of selfishness, and therefore has to have proof, best to have authority, therefore relies on authority. 532 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:38,000 Or of this involutionary arc where he gives, where there's more of oneness than separation, where there's more love than hate, and more response. 533 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,000 And then he'll be getting out of these four bodies into this. 534 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:52,000 He'll be talking of God if you like, or of Krishna, the beloved, or Allah, the compassionate, or whatever it might be. 535 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:59,000 Or of the, oh psychic oneness, or what have you. 536 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,000 But it'll be after the nuts and bolts. 537 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:16,000 Is it not possible that some of these thousand million planets, over 800 million, 800 millennia advanced on us in Earth's time, it's better than 10% on the box. 538 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,000 Who are 80 million of the Earth, 10% for 80 million years. 539 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,000 Have, come to this, and have an knowledge of this thing. 540 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,000 And to them, solid objects. 541 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,000 Don't change shape. 542 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,000 If you're focusing in the inner three, and you've got these four, this you can alter. 543 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:40,000 And the stories of it being visible and invisible, on radar and off radar. 544 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,000 Getting heavy, getting light. 545 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,000 Begin to make some sort of sense. 546 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:56,000 If they did land at Edwards Air Force Base, and you were able to walk through, and then you weren't able to walk through. 547 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:02,000 And if you're over the radar at Washington DC, they were seen and weren't seen. 548 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,000 It begins to have a story. 549 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:10,000 Now this might mean a great change in your life. 550 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,000 But it's not going on. 551 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,000 And the joy is that who cares what I say. 552 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,000 If it rings true. 553 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:24,000 Is this the sort of bloke who sees sources on the evolutionary arc? 554 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,000 It's got nothing to do with his outer job. 555 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,000 He can be a sailor at sea with a horizon all round. 556 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,000 He can be stuck in the prison. 557 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,000 And he looks out of the prison bars, and he sees the stunts. 558 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,000 This bloke will see them might when he looks out. 559 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,000 Now this is very subjective. 560 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:58,000 I just threw away in passing that Lemurian loose body, and I said I'll bring it back to sources. 561 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,000 And to finish, I'll do that. 562 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,000 The source of context. 563 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:14,000 There are many opium, thousands, I do agree, and at many, many levels. 564 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:20,000 Let's take one bloke and one example of the many levels. 565 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,000 It's a man called Angelucci. 566 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,000 To know of him, he's an Italian American. 567 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,000 He had a lot of physical pain. 568 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,000 A lot of physical pain. 569 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:39,000 The bloke on the evolutionary arc, the selfish bloke. 570 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,000 Then that pain, they get inward termed. 571 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:49,000 Everything happens to a man, and it's somebody else's fault. 572 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,000 And they get bitter and they get sad. 573 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,000 Evolutionary arc pain, the chap on the cross, for example. 574 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,000 He didn't get bitter or sad, so it is said. 575 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,000 And you get outward termed in one this, of this thing. 576 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,000 And Angelucci was of the evolutionary arc. 577 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:19,000 The pain had made him responsive in the artistic sense, alert sense. 578 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:27,000 In other words, he was conscious if you were thinking I was a twerk or were listening. 579 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,000 It was both a half. 580 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,000 He was conscious. 581 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,000 There was a certain amount of flow between relationship. 582 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,000 One this was to work. 583 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:45,000 These six sense, these new age qualities, this return arc of love and one this was beginning to have some meaning. 584 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,000 It comes 1946 and he sees two lights in the sky. 585 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,000 The expression of flying saucers has not yet been popularized. 586 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,000 There's not yet a peg on which to hang all our sightings. 587 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,000 The Romans call them flying shields. 588 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:10,000 The Christians in the Bible call them flying wheels and things and the fires in the sky, pillars are all sorts of things. 589 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,000 We haven't got a common peg to tag it on. 590 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:18,000 Angelucci just sees two lights in the sky, 1946. 591 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,000 Years go by, but 1952 in fact. 592 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,000 47 is calm. 593 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,000 The expression has been born flying saucers and at once he's remembered. 594 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:36,000 Those who were here when I just came in were telling the stories of the saucers they'd seen. 595 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,000 Once you've seen it, you do remember the dancing. 596 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,000 It hatches itself on the memory. 597 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:55,000 You could describe if it was a year ago, three years ago, you could describe the dinghats nearly always. 598 01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:02,000 But two days before or two days afterwards you couldn't tell me whether it was raining then, probably. 599 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,000 Why does it etch into you when you've seen a saucer? 600 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,000 And sometimes you want to talk about it to everybody. 601 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,000 You can't stop the bloke telling you about his sighting. 602 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,000 And there's the other one who won't talk. 603 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:25,000 Who feels somehow it sort of kind of degrades it. 604 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,000 Who's very low to talk about it. 605 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,000 Involution, evolution. 606 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,000 I don't know which way to go. 607 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:38,000 That it etches on is the thing that worries me. 608 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,000 It says time, that's the next question, I'll come back to it. 609 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,000 But we're dealing with this loose cup body. 610 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:55,000 Andrew Tease, two lights, he's had his pain, he's out for a turn and in 1952 he gets his first contact. 611 01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:03,000 And the first contact as is so awesome again, is the one that's been in the air for a long time. 612 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,000 The first contact is a case that's preceded by telepathy. 613 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,000 Over and over again you get telepathy. 614 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:16,000 He gets this telepathic impulse, he's driving his car up the night, he drives it into a deserted road. 615 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:23,000 He stops, his headlights are still on, in front of his car headlights are two whirling lights. 616 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:29,000 They emerge into a kind of a television screen, he gets out of his car, he leaves against the radiator, 617 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:35,000 the screen is projected up face and there's an inverted commas conversation. 618 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:41,000 Subjective and not proven to those who weren't stuck in these lower four. 619 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:53,000 A little while goes by, he gets the telepathic impulse again and this time he goes down to a river bed, it's a misty day. 620 01:05:53,000 --> 01:06:04,000 Shimmering through the mist comes tall loose, incoherent body, just like the slumurian, with the same face attached to it and they have a conversation. 621 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:11,000 More time goes by, he's at the local Greyhound bus station in Jalucic with his family. 622 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:21,000 Nice dense physique, he sees now this face in a body like yours and mine, tight down here, just like this. 623 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,000 Very conventional, earthy clothes. 624 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:28,000 The next route is getting rough to this, chapter two. 625 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,000 And he gets the telepathic impact back, don't draw attention to me. 626 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:39,000 He doesn't and the spaceman holds open the glass door of the railway station. 627 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,000 The spaceman is dense physical enough to hold open the door. 628 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:48,000 The family goes through, the family say to the engineer, what's the matter with you, what's in here? 629 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,000 He says, nothing, nothing, nothing. 630 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,000 The other contacts have been spaced a bit apart. 631 01:06:55,000 --> 01:07:00,000 The very next day the spaceman calls the manager, he says, thank you for not drawing attention to me. 632 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:07,000 They both go into a café and they both drink coffee and they both talk good America. 633 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:17,000 The point of the story, whichever level of contact the earthling can take, whichever of these four he can get to. 634 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:23,000 It's me, including the dense physical, if you can't get out of nuts and belts. 635 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:30,000 The health body, that shimmering thing, a mental projection, that thing in front of you. 636 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:37,000 All right, this is subjective, this is unproven, this is trite and harrowed when he said, 637 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,000 solid or to change shape, there's a fool. 638 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:47,000 Or, there's something there for those who have eyes to see.